I know there are alternate this or that (plug-ins, slit, or even differant bb4win branches that may do this)
But I am hoping there is a way to use xoblite's code without any other, to move the system tray into the toolbar.

I have no use for having a bar with the window title in it, if my windows did not have titles, like on Mac OS 7, then I would use it, but they do have their own titles. I've moved the taskbar to the toolbar already and so am left with a systembar that only displays the window title and system tray.

Back in the day, I had something which allowed me to use the taskbar on the systembar with the system tray, and playing with the percentages, locking the systembar to always on top, the toolbar not to always on top, I could hide the window titles with the systembar, so I did have what I wanted. However, for some reason, the verticle height of the two bars are differant now and I can not make them the same height as I did before (Maybe I used a differant version of xoblite, or maybe not xoblite at all?)

All I'm asking for is either a way to make the bars the same height, a hack to move the system tray to the toolbar, or for this to be an option in xoBlite bb4, if posible.

I have read other threads regarding similar situations, and it was always come back to use BBLeanBar. Well, again I don't want plugins. The entire reason I use an alternate shell is to squeeze as many resources AWAY FROM programs so I can use them where I need them.

If that is ultimatly the final answear, and I'm hoping there have been some advances somewhere else in the last year and a half since the last guy that posted this situation, then I will go that route.

Ofcourse, I do have a Dock program, so I could just find one that has system tray capabilities in it too. Though the last one I tried was resource hungry.

Here's an old screenshot http://www.boxshots.org/screenies/4570.png. I thought this had the setup I mentioned above. It has ObjectDock with MSN Messenger in the systemtray (to the left of the recyclebin icon). If I recall correctly, it don't show things like battery, sound or network though.

Just wait a bit. I heard that A LOT of new things will be available in v4. Keep your eyes peeled.

Hi

I have downloaded and installed the latest version today, i seem to have lost the option on close to minimise to systray only. when now close it stays in the noraml running apps section of the start bar and the systray

is there a way to get systray only back?