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unkamunka
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Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:57 pm Posts: 1004 Location: austria
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 bb4win_mod|bbMien 7.11
This is bb4win_mod 1.19 merged with the bbLean 1.17 codebase - formerly known as bbMien 1.17.... - 4-colour Split gradients are not supported (at least at present)
- OutlineText bug in bbLeanSkin+
- bbLeanSkin+ & bbIconBox+ are not xoblite compatible
- minor tweaks & changes to existing Menu, built-in Toolbar code & bbStyleMaker
- no ProcessesMenu or MinimizeToTray (at least at present)
- tested on platforms up to Windows 7
Documentation - Source CodeMore (probably mostly minor) changes to be made - timescale uncertain bbMien 1.17 was downloaded 1058 times
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| Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:21 pm |
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cthu1hu
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Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:08 pm Posts: 754 Location: LA, US
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
Very interesting. The transparencies in bbiconbox and bbleanbar just seem to turn the background black. And the windowlabel on the left of bbleanbar says 7.11  [edit] Neeever mind. I had alpha value on 8.
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| Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:11 pm |
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unkamunka
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Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:57 pm Posts: 1004 Location: austria
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
cthu1hu wrote: Very interesting. The transparencies in bbiconbox and bbleanbar just seem to turn the background black. And the windowlabel on the left of bbleanbar says 7.11  - on a style change, the bbLeanBar+ background _will_ turn transparent,
bbIconBox+ requires an extra step - adjust the Window|AlphaValue *downwards*  - bbLean 7.11 is to distinguish it from the bbLean 1.16 series (& from bbLean 1.17 itself). There are certain enhancements that arise when the bbLean series number is higher than 1.16
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| Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:18 pm |
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cthu1hu
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Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:08 pm Posts: 754 Location: LA, US
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
Looks very good. The transparencies is pretty genius. It opens up some interesting possibilities with styling bbleanbar.
[feature request]
Icon spacing and possibly icon labels in bbiconbox...
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| Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:22 pm |
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unkamunka
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Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:57 pm Posts: 1004 Location: austria
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
cthu1hu wrote: [feature request]
Icon spacing and possibly icon labels in bbiconbox... - Not sure about your set-up, but for me - on a hi-spec box - IconBoxes tend to eat resources like there's no tomorrow.
- Customisable icon spacing is probably do-able.
- Labels for each icon would appear to require much space & making a mouseover features in the TitleBar would seem to be much the same as Tooltips. Is there another possibility here that you could add?
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| Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:29 pm |
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nfok3
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:12 am Posts: 60
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
Applause!
I will give this a test run as soon as my box gets back online. Flippin' graphics cards.
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| Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:45 pm |
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cthu1hu
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Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:08 pm Posts: 754 Location: LA, US
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
I'm probably wanting bbiconbox to look like idesk, which is probably beyond its scope. I haven't noticed any resource issues with iconbox, though it takes a while to render a lot of folder/files for me at bb's startup. I'm wondering if there's any way to put some kind of invisible bounding box around the text in bbleanbar+'s tasks, to make them easier to click when the background is transparent... Also, leanbar/desktop margin seems to be zero when background is trans. Here's something you couldn't do previously... 
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| Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:51 pm |
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nfok3
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Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:12 am Posts: 60
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
cthu1hu wrote: I'm wondering if there's any way to put some kind of invisible bounding box around the text in bbleanbar+'s tasks, to make them easier to click when the background is transparent...
Yes please!
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| Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:33 pm |
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unkamunka
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Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:57 pm Posts: 1004 Location: austria
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
cthu1hu wrote: I'm wondering if there's any way to put some kind of invisible bounding box around the text in bbleanbar+'s tasks, to make them easier to click when the background is transparent...
Also, leanbar/desktop margin seems to be zero when background is trans. - An invisible bounding box - by definition - would not be able to accept clicks.
The practical alternative - for transparent backgrounds - is to have icons available to click on - The margin part of the Tasks interface "disappears" with transparent backgrounds. There is no change to the code that actually draws the margin
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| Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:24 am |
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cthu1hu
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Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:08 pm Posts: 754 Location: LA, US
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
unkamunka wrote: - An invisible bounding box - by definition - would not be able to accept clicks.
The practical alternative - for transparent backgrounds - is to have icons available to click on
Rocketdock manages it somehow. I'm clueless though.
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| Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:51 pm |
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unkamunka
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Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:57 pm Posts: 1004 Location: austria
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
cthu1hu wrote: Rocketdock manages it somehow. I'm clueless though. RocketDock also has a layering system for allowing apps to selectively handle the "always on top" aspect...... From a quick look at the GUI, I suspect that the underlying codebase is quite different from MingW & _may_ even not be OpenSource.
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| Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:27 pm |
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cthu1hu
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Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:08 pm Posts: 754 Location: LA, US
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
Text shadows would look tremendous in conjunction with the transparent leanbar+. You gotta do it holmes 
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| Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:58 pm |
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unkamunka
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Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:57 pm Posts: 1004 Location: austria
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
cthu1hu wrote: Text shadows would look tremendous in conjunction with the transparent leanbar+. You gotta do it holmes  Wait for bb4win_mod 1.19 - only that (almost certainly) will not be bbStyleMaker-compatible. EDIT: but then again it might just be...... 
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| Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:13 pm |
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cthu1hu
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Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:08 pm Posts: 754 Location: LA, US
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 Re: bbMien 1.17
I can live with that.  Using bbleanbar+ with vanilla bblean 1.17 ATM, works great. Something about font shadows that definitely breaks compatibility with bbstylemaker.
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| Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:44 pm |
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agel
BBNewborn
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:30 am Posts: 2 Location: russia
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 Re: bbMien 1.17 - based on bbLean 1.17
Hi. I have some ideas about winxmove improvement. First, it would be more handy to load winxmove as plugin, but not as independent program (and how the hell it appears at system startup??). And second - exclude-list is a must, bcouse ALT is high-usage key in many win apps (e.g. photoshop).
p.s. thanks for a great work!
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