I do not have the source code of the compiler I cannot say exactly why for sure, I can only say what I can prove : when using size optimization the resulting file is smaller, which could mean that it will execute faster because the file that was compiled is code, and if the code is smaller it takes less data in the processor/cache which means less misses, as well as less instructions, while all this is clearly pure speculation, and there is no obvious evidence even for any of the above, you can know for sure that smaller file may execute faster in some cases than code that has been compiled with speed but is larger, and sometimes the other way around, the only way to prove this is to experiment, until we know for sure what exactly the compiler is doing to the code we cannot tell which version is better, and probably sometimes more important to mention, the cpu microarchitecture may honor certain code better than other code, for example : AMD only bought the licenses to use the SSE instructions, but the actual implemention in the processor is different than intel processors, but considering the amount of efforts I have spent carefully optimizing everything, even if there is a speed difference it will be minor at the worst case.



it is already done, currently I have 10 profile files for every one and 2 differently profiled versions, that should give 2 blackbox.exe's with full profiles of the speed version as well as 2 bbsystembar.dll's with full profiles for speed, the size version and their profiling will be later, I should soon be compiling them with profiles and put the executables on the site, unfortunately a bug exists in bbsystembar 1.13b15 which I do not know how to fix, which requires the help of the author of the program and I was not yet able to contact him about it - the bug is quite simple, the plugin does not know about desktop margins at start and only after you change the desktop margins it reads them and uses them, it may be a bug in blackbox as well, but I was not able to determine which one, changing the desktop margins may be a problem if you do it all the time at boot.

installation of this specific version will require the following registry modifications :



obviously replace "X:\\path\\to\\blackbox.exe" with the proper driveletter and directory, on top of that I strongly recommend deleting explorer.exe from the \windows directory, but that is an another subject which barely fits here

as some of you may know about the problem with DDR3 memory and AMD processors is that the integrated memory controller exists for the purpose of reducing memory latency, but since DDR3 even further trades latency for bandwidth it becomes less efficient, and thus reducing AMD's performance because the basis for their processor's success is the low memory latency, for the same reason as written in bold on my site: my compiled versions are not optimized so that you could load them to death, instead they are designed to be used at the minimal levels, a typical configuration involes only 3 blackbox plugins as follows : bbsystembar 1.13b15, bbkeys and bbmemlimiter.

this is the recommended configuration, exceeding this configuration (more plugins/heavier plugins) will negate the speed effect which I am trying hard to achieve, also note that bbsystembarex is significantly slower than bbsystembar it also has lags when program switching (cpu jumps to 100% upon switch) I have made my choice to invest in bbsystembar instead of bbsystembarex because I tested these programs before and determined the fastest program which I wanted to further improve.

I will put on my site a full bblean version with all optimized plugins and proper configuration later

yhe btw, all holy fathers must die, DETH to god, DETH to cheese's chrisp (jesus that was cooked with a flamethrower, cutt to 16,000 pieces with a chainsaw then disintegrated with sulfamic acid and then put on a reverse cruicifix (upside down)) SATAN CLAUSS is the shitt, but yhe thanks to SATAN CLAUSS that gived DETH to all who deserve it (including bill ghay(ts)) and of corse DETH to bush but I guess he's still working on that , "burn baby burn, burn a little higher"

@monohouse: where is your homepage? http://manoa.flnet.org doesn't load...

thx

Can't download
seems broken

someone needs to reupload these to somewhere like rapidshare. his site is down and i really want to get my hands on these versions.

i only have one version.
you can get it here:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/dennyhalim/l ... =downloads

here's the files:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/dennyhalim/limbo/files/

I am sorry but for the past 2 months my site was down, now it is working, or at least should be

Why not go in a new direction with something like...say, "Skinnybox"?

sounds good, but does not represent well the idea and approach behind, actually the name implies something completely the opposite

what about things like: BBLean+, BBGoal (sorry, soccer, have to, but basically: good old and lean), BBDeleted (deleted edition revision, or DeletedBB), BBDelEd (deleted edition revision), BBUnloaded, BBODE (black box optimized deleted edition) etc...

How about, since it's still in pre-RC5 mode

"BBFatFree" -???


Even skip the BB part, and simply call it "FatFree" -it will boom up there with Fluxbox and probably get ported over everywhere as it's open source to begin with- and with a fun name like that...

"...hey what GUI do you use and prefer?"
"-Oh. I just switched over to FatFree, and it rocks. I don't even notice that I'm not typing in command line stuff anymore- that is how cool it is."
"...Fatwhat? FatFREE? You mean it's free to use or without FAT? Which??"
"..Both! Get it here.... (link)"
"Woah! Cool beans. I feel so l33t now. "

(or call it "CoolBeans", BCool" -BOldSchool...OldSchoolBeans, and for the beefed up opposite choked full of code version, sure to be developed, "BBBloat")

Hey there! I like what you are doing to the bblean interface, making it even smaller than it is right now! I am very interested in having the leanest most minimalistic explorer and I think this guy is on the right track!

All I want is a right click desktop access for loading the programs I need and a taskbar showing what programs I have loaded so I can minimize and maximize what I need running. I might get a quick launch addon in addition to the task bar for faster loading of programs.

Thanks so much for making bblean leaner, I will for sure be watching out for any future releases!

Monday, August 18 2008
- BBDeleted 0.0.4 Alpha
* BugFix: Desktop Margins are no longer reset at start, instead, are being read from the config
* Feature: built-in SystemBar has been completely Deleted

this version is undergoing profiling stage and will soon be released, this may take up to 2 weeks, depending on the amount of profiling information that will be available at the time, maybe sooner, a question to anyone who tried this: would you prefer a non-SSE build to be created profiled and included ? for old processors.

specify what version are you running (speed/size/athlon profiled/p3 profiled) and what version you would like to see created, need more feedback.

from now on this version will require a systembar plugin if you want a systembar, the good news is that I am working on the systembar as well which is a separate project, BUT, all the people who wanted a blackbox without a systembar now have it, while those who want a systembar still also do

Did you work with the bbLean 1.6 source, or is this a fork of bbLeanless?

Looks pretty interesting.

and that is just the start, and here's the latest:

* (hopefully) removed drag and drop functionality for bblean (NOT for the entire system)
* (hopefully) removed ole32.dll dependency (is no longer linked against)

a new alpha version is to be released soon, the removal of the above is still in hack stage, currently working on implementing proper removal (not in the sense that there are bugs, more like unused variables and functions that are executed but do not do anything good for anyone (redundant code) the idea of garbage collection starts to become more appealing now) and once that is done, a beta version will be, that is, if no further changes will take place later.

p.s. if this keeps up, I might have a full 0.0.5 version soon

btw, "quick launch" is obsolete in favor of bbkeys