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unkamunka
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Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:57 pm Posts: 1008 Location: austria
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 Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
Niniel wrote: ....As for BB crashing, yes, it does that sometimes. For me, it almost always happens when I change styles or reconfigure repeatedly...... ...How often this happens (if at all) can also vary significantly with what flavour of Blackbox you are using. (A complete list of the latest versions is here.) At least that is what my experience has been. Also, if you are running bbLeanSkin, make sure that the list in exclusions.rc is up to date. Try expanding the list as follows: Code: # Invisible windows: # (Listed here to save resources, and possibly trouble)
BROWSEUI.DLL:OTClass SYSTRAY.EXE:SystemTray_Main WEBCHECK.DLL:MS_WebcheckMonitor STMGR.EXE:STATEMGRPROC WIASERVC.DLL:STIExe_Window_Class TAPISRV.EXE:UmdmSP Class TAPISRV.EXE:WAN_Class RNAAPP.EXE:RNAENGCLASS
QUARTZ.DLL:FilterGraphWindow WMPUI.DLL:TimerWindowClass WMPLAYER.EXE:atlcommon_timer*
# vista invisible windows ?? csrss.exe taskeng.exe dwm.exe winlogon.exe sdclt.exe # programs which come with their own skin: trillian.exe toolkit.dll winamp.exe Wmp.dll iTunes.DLL iTunesRegistry.DLL iTunesLocalized.DLL
# programs with trouble nero.exe squidcam.exe
# vista issues shell32.dll devenv.exe taskmgr.exe
The version of devev.exe is the one that ships with Visual Studio 2005.
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crowmag
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Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:06 am Posts: 1310 Location: Violent Paradise
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 Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
Nerdo21 wrote: Does anybody know how I can stretch the start menu the entire width on the top of the screen and maybe with the dropdown menu starting on the right side? Mmmm... first, Blackbox doesn't have a 'Start Menu' so, you've confused me as well as everyone else as to what you mean. If you mean the root menu, I'm having a hard time visualizing why anyone would want their menu to stretch across the entire sceen At any rate, if you look in your menu and go to; Blackbox --> Configuration --> Menus --> Maximal Width, you can adjust the width of your menus to a degree. Tho, I don't think your going to get them accross the whole screen. And what exactly do you mean by 'drop down menu'? You have to be a little more explicit when asking these kinds of questions, not everyone will have their systembar\toolbar at the same screen position or, given the flexibility of Blackbox shells, the exact same configuration. Being vague in your questions will bring you silence at best or a semi-sarcastic reply from me at worst - tho that is with your best interest in mind. (hey, at least you don't have to deal with me in RL - pity those that do  ). As to your intermittent crashes, I personally don't experience a lot of crashes my self, Blackbox is pretty rock solid for me and has been for the last 5-6 years. On the occasion that it has started crashing, I have found that the problem usually has to do with: - an unstable plugin
- a terminate, stay resident program (TSR) - one that runs on startup
- a miss behaving tray app
- using incompatible\mismatched core plugins with your specific shell buid (bbLeanBar, bbKeys)
- a badly coded hardware driver or (more likely) helper app
- your windows version
If this is a real problem for you, it would be best to start a new thread that includes specific information in those areas.
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| Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:28 am |
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Niniel
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Joined: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:39 pm Posts: 732
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 Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
Nerdo21 wrote: I think all of Pikton's styles have too many plugins for me. I just want something basic. maybe some icons of my drives and are easy to get to on the desktop. Styles don't have any plugins. None. Very few of Pitkon's style archives contain additional files, such as bbInterface, which can be used to create custom menus. And one or two even come with BB, so they are little self-contained systems. But you don't have to use any of those. Just extract wallpaper and style file, and that's it. As for drive icons on the desktop, BB does not support that by itself since it doesn't know a desktop. This is where you'll need plugins - bbInterface for the really fancy, elaborate setups, or Iconbox for more simplistic, yet easy to create, configurations. There's also a plugin called bbIcon, which tries to put icons on the desktop that can be used to start programs, but I found it to be very unstable so I'm not using it, and I would recommend against using it. I think noccy's developing a desktop for BB, but it hasn't been officially released yet, so if that's something you'd like to have, you'll have to wait some more.
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Nerdo21
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Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:14 am Posts: 8
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 Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
ok well apparently to many of you that have replied do not understand what I am trying to ask. i guess i am still stuck in the windows xp pro lingo. what i want to know is how i can style or edit the configuration for the window that when you press (Win) to look a little better and not a root menu that pops up in the middle of the screen. got any ideas let me know.
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Niniel
BBDinosaur
Joined: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:39 pm Posts: 732
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 Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
When you hit the Win key, the same menu pops up that you get when you right-click on the screen (root menu) (minus the icons in my case). To edit the content of that menu, you therefore need to edit the file menu.rc. The appearance of the menu is controlled by the currently active style, however, so if you don't like your setup, maybe a new style will be more to your liking. If none of the many styles that are available for download give you the looks you want, then you'll have to do some editing on your own. Below is a style file. There's a section called "menu" that you'll have to edit. I don't have a link to it handy, but there's a program called BBStyleMaker that might be helpful. Code: ! Stylefile for blackbox ! Automagically generated by bbstylemaker
! -- info -- style.name: Cyrix style.author: pitkon (http://pitkon.deviantart.com, http://pitkon.skinbase.org, http://boxshots.com/index.php?action=search&search=pitkon&type=0) style.date: Oct 19 2005 style.credits: style.comments: based on the wallpaper "Cyrix" by danillooc (http://danillooc.wincustomize.com, http://danillooc.deviantart.com) with the artist's permission
! -- background -- rootCommand: bsetroot -f backgrounds\cyrix_wall.jpg
! -- toolbar -- toolbar: raised gradient vertical toolbar.color: #ffffff toolbar.colorTo: #a6a6a6 toolbar.textColor: #000000 toolbar.justify: center toolbar.font: overhead brk toolbar.fontHeight: 16
toolbar.label: raised gradient vertical toolbar.label.color: #747474 toolbar.label.colorTo: #000000 toolbar.label.textColor: #b2b2b2
toolbar.windowLabel: raised gradient vertical toolbar.windowLabel.color: #ffffff toolbar.windowLabel.colorTo: #a6a6a6 toolbar.windowLabel.textColor: #000000
toolbar.clock: raised bevel2 gradient vertical toolbar.clock.color: #747474 toolbar.clock.colorTo: #000000 toolbar.clock.textColor: #b2b2b2
toolbar.button: flat gradient diagonal toolbar.button.color: #272e3b toolbar.button.colorTo: #dddee0 toolbar.button.picColor: #faf9fe
toolbar.button.pressed: sunken gradient diagonal toolbar.button.pressed.color: #ffffff toolbar.button.pressed.colorTo: #a6a6a6 toolbar.button.pressed.picColor: #000000
! -- menu -- menu.title: raised gradient vertical menu.title.color: #747474 menu.title.colorTo: #000000 menu.title.textColor: #f4f4f4 menu.title.justify: center menu.title.font: overhead brk menu.title.fontHeight: 16
menu.frame: raised gradient vertical menu.frame.color: #ffffff menu.frame.colorTo: #a6a6a6 menu.frame.textColor: #000000 menu.frame.justify: right menu.frame.font: overhead brk menu.frame.fontHeight: 16
menu.hilite: flat gradient vertical menu.hilite.color: #8a8a8a menu.hilite.colorTo: #ffffff menu.hilite.textColor: #000000
menu.bullet: triangle menu.bullet.position: right
! -- window -- window.title.focus: raised gradient pipecross window.title.focus.color: #747474 window.title.focus.colorTo: #000000
window.label.focus: raised gradient vertical window.label.focus.color: #ffffff window.label.focus.colorTo: #a6a6a6 window.label.focus.textColor: #000000
window.handle.focus: flat gradient vertical window.handle.focus.color: #747474 window.handle.focus.colorTo: #000000
window.grip.focus: raised gradient vertical window.grip.focus.color: #ffffff window.grip.focus.colorTo: #a6a6a6
window.button.focus: flat gradient diagonal window.button.focus.color: #272e3b window.button.focus.colorTo: #dddee0 window.button.focus.picColor: #faf9fe
window.button.pressed: sunken gradient vertical window.button.pressed.color: #747474 window.button.pressed.colorTo: #000000 window.button.pressed.picColor: #ffffff
window.title.unfocus: flat gradient rectangle window.title.unfocus.color: #272e3b window.title.unfocus.colorTo: #dddee0
window.label.unfocus: flat gradient rectangle window.label.unfocus.color: #272e3b window.label.unfocus.colorTo: #dddee0 window.label.unfocus.textColor: #eef5ff
window.handle.unfocus: flat gradient rectangle window.handle.unfocus.color: #272e3b window.handle.unfocus.colorTo: #dddee0 window.handle.height: 2
window.grip.unfocus: raised gradient horizontal interlaced window.grip.unfocus.color: #272e3b window.grip.unfocus.colorTo: #dddee0
window.button.unfocus: flat gradient diagonal window.button.unfocus.color: #000000 window.button.unfocus.colorTo: #747474 window.button.unfocus.picColor: #b2b2b2
window.frame.focusColor: #5b1f05 window.frame.unfocusColor: #058a76
window.font: overhead brk window.fontHeight: 16 window.justify: center
! -- misc. -- borderColor: #606060 borderWidth: 1 bevelWidth: 1 frameWidth: 1 handleWidth: 8
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Nerdo21
BBChild
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:14 am Posts: 8
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 Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
thanks for the advice. i will edit the file when i get time. i also realized that the volume adjustment buttons on my hp pavilion ze2308wm do not work when im using the bblean shell. is there a plugin that could correct this problem and would not interfere with the explorer shell because i switch between the two alot.
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ashotz
BBWise
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:44 am Posts: 70
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 Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
look here, may help you viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3290 a search through the forums turns up lots of answers  .
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bhavbhuti
BBWise
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:27 am Posts: 68 Location: Rajkot
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 Re: BBKeys
Hi all
DisplayFusion has a few shortcut nifty keys that can be used, for eg. Ctrl+Win+X will move the current window from the current monitor onto the next monitor at same size. Other are like center window, center window at 100%, 75%.
Can such feats be achieved in BBKeys + BBLean?
Please advise.
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Bhavbhuti
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| Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:12 pm |
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tresni
Site Admin
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:59 pm Posts: 1316 Location: Boise, Idaho
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 Re: BBKeys
tmk not currently. It could probably be done with a mix of BBKeys & Tcl-bb, but it's not part of the core of any branch.
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bhavbhuti
BBWise
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:27 am Posts: 68 Location: Rajkot
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 Re: BBKeys
Hi tresni
Thanks for your response, anyway such can be made available in a future release of bbKeys?
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Bhavbhuti
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| Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:15 am |
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Lord Driminicus
BBWise
Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:18 pm Posts: 64
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 Re: BBKeys
You could give gridmove a try. I use it and it really suits me. You cannot move windows unresized from one monitor to another but you can move windows around using hotkeys (win + 1-0) or by mouse. Have a look. Note that you'll probably need to make your own grid. But that shouldn't be too much trouble.
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bhavbhuti
BBWise
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:27 am Posts: 68 Location: Rajkot
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 Re: BBKeys
Thanks Lord Driminicus, I will give your suggestion a try.
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Bhavbhuti
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| Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:07 pm |
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igndenok
BBSage
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:23 am Posts: 104 Location: Surabaya, Indonesia
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 Re: BBKeys
bhavbhuti wrote: Ctrl+Win+X will move the current window from the current monitor onto the next monitor at same size. did you mean Win+Up / Win+Down ?
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bhavbhuti
BBWise
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:27 am Posts: 68 Location: Rajkot
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igndenok wrote: bhavbhuti wrote: Ctrl+Win+X will move the current window from the current monitor onto the next monitor at same size. did you mean Win+Up / Win+Down ? No, no I am aware of that, to maximize and restore in the same screen. But this one actually moves the window out from monitor 1 to monitor 2 and vice versa.
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Bhavbhuti
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| Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:49 am |
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skyhopper88
BBChild
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:11 am Posts: 5
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 Re: BBKeys
I'm pretty green at this, but I'm trying to create a rocker hotkey (right click then left click) to invoke and scroll through the AltTab menu, but I can't figure out the right syntax to use, or if it's possible with bbkeys. Can anyone help?
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