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Post Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
Niniel wrote:
....As for BB crashing, yes, it does that sometimes. For me, it almost always happens when I change styles or reconfigure repeatedly......
...How often this happens (if at all) can also vary significantly with what flavour of Blackbox you are using. (A complete list of the latest versions is here.) At least that is what my experience has been. Also, if you are running bbLeanSkin, make sure that the list in exclusions.rc is up to date. Try expanding the list as follows:
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# Invisible windows:
# (Listed here to save resources, and possibly trouble)

BROWSEUI.DLL:OTClass
SYSTRAY.EXE:SystemTray_Main
WEBCHECK.DLL:MS_WebcheckMonitor
STMGR.EXE:STATEMGRPROC
WIASERVC.DLL:STIExe_Window_Class
TAPISRV.EXE:UmdmSP Class
TAPISRV.EXE:WAN_Class
RNAAPP.EXE:RNAENGCLASS

QUARTZ.DLL:FilterGraphWindow
WMPUI.DLL:TimerWindowClass
WMPLAYER.EXE:atlcommon_timer*

# vista invisible windows ??
csrss.exe
taskeng.exe
dwm.exe
winlogon.exe
sdclt.exe

# programs which come with their own skin:
trillian.exe
toolkit.dll
winamp.exe
Wmp.dll
iTunes.DLL
iTunesRegistry.DLL
iTunesLocalized.DLL

# programs with trouble
nero.exe
squidcam.exe

# vista issues
shell32.dll
devenv.exe
taskmgr.exe
The version of devev.exe is the one that ships with Visual Studio 2005.

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Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:20 am
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Post Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
Nerdo21 wrote:
Does anybody know how I can stretch the start menu the entire width on the top of the screen and maybe with the dropdown menu starting on the right side?
Mmmm... first, Blackbox doesn't have a 'Start Menu' so, you've confused me as well as everyone else as to what you mean. If you mean the root menu, I'm having a hard time visualizing why anyone would want their menu to stretch across the entire sceen :shock:

At any rate, if you look in your menu and go to; Blackbox --> Configuration --> Menus --> Maximal Width, you can adjust the width of your menus to a degree. Tho, I don't think your going to get them accross the whole screen.

And what exactly do you mean by 'drop down menu'?

You have to be a little more explicit when asking these kinds of questions, not everyone will have their systembar\toolbar at the same screen position or, given the flexibility of Blackbox shells, the exact same configuration.

Being vague in your questions will bring you silence at best or a semi-sarcastic reply from me at worst - tho that is with your best interest in mind. (hey, at least you don't have to deal with me in RL - pity those that do :twisted: ).

As to your intermittent crashes, I personally don't experience a lot of crashes my self, Blackbox is pretty rock solid for me and has been for the last 5-6 years. On the occasion that it has started crashing, I have found that the problem usually has to do with:

  • an unstable plugin
  • a terminate, stay resident program (TSR) - one that runs on startup
  • a miss behaving tray app
  • using incompatible\mismatched core plugins with your specific shell buid (bbLeanBar, bbKeys)
  • a badly coded hardware driver or (more likely) helper app
  • your windows version

If this is a real problem for you, it would be best to start a new thread that includes specific information in those areas.

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Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:28 am
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Post Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
Nerdo21 wrote:
I think all of Pikton's styles have too many plugins for me. I just want something basic. maybe some icons of my drives and are easy to get to on the desktop.


Styles don't have any plugins. None.

Very few of Pitkon's style archives contain additional files, such as bbInterface, which can be used to create custom menus. And one or two even come with BB, so they are little self-contained systems.
But you don't have to use any of those. Just extract wallpaper and style file, and that's it.

As for drive icons on the desktop, BB does not support that by itself since it doesn't know a desktop. This is where you'll need plugins - bbInterface for the really fancy, elaborate setups, or Iconbox for more simplistic, yet easy to create, configurations. There's also a plugin called bbIcon, which tries to put icons on the desktop that can be used to start programs, but I found it to be very unstable so I'm not using it, and I would recommend against using it.
I think noccy's developing a desktop for BB, but it hasn't been officially released yet, so if that's something you'd like to have, you'll have to wait some more.


Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:53 pm
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Post Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
ok well apparently to many of you that have replied do not understand what I am trying to ask. i guess i am still stuck in the windows xp pro lingo. what i want to know is how i can style or edit the configuration for the window that when you press (Win) to look a little better and not a root menu that pops up in the middle of the screen. got any ideas let me know.


Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:34 pm
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Post Re: BBKeys.rc Coding and BBLean Start Menu
When you hit the Win key, the same menu pops up that you get when you right-click on the screen (root menu) (minus the icons in my case).
To edit the content of that menu, you therefore need to edit the file menu.rc.
The appearance of the menu is controlled by the currently active style, however, so if you don't like your setup, maybe a new style will be more to your liking. If none of the many styles that are available for download give you the looks you want, then you'll have to do some editing on your own.

Below is a style file. There's a section called "menu" that you'll have to edit. I don't have a link to it handy, but there's a program called BBStyleMaker that might be helpful.

Code:
! Stylefile for blackbox
! Automagically generated by bbstylemaker

! -- info --
style.name:                         Cyrix
style.author:                       pitkon (http://pitkon.deviantart.com, http://pitkon.skinbase.org, http://boxshots.com/index.php?action=search&search=pitkon&type=0)
style.date:                         Oct 19 2005
style.credits:                     
style.comments:                     based on the wallpaper "Cyrix" by danillooc (http://danillooc.wincustomize.com, http://danillooc.deviantart.com) with the artist's permission

! -- background --
rootCommand:                        bsetroot -f backgrounds\cyrix_wall.jpg

! -- toolbar --
toolbar:                            raised gradient vertical
toolbar.color:                      #ffffff
toolbar.colorTo:                    #a6a6a6
toolbar.textColor:                  #000000
toolbar.justify:                    center
toolbar.font:                       overhead brk
toolbar.fontHeight:                 16

toolbar.label:                      raised gradient vertical
toolbar.label.color:                #747474
toolbar.label.colorTo:              #000000
toolbar.label.textColor:            #b2b2b2

toolbar.windowLabel:                raised gradient vertical
toolbar.windowLabel.color:          #ffffff
toolbar.windowLabel.colorTo:        #a6a6a6
toolbar.windowLabel.textColor:      #000000

toolbar.clock:                      raised bevel2 gradient vertical
toolbar.clock.color:                #747474
toolbar.clock.colorTo:              #000000
toolbar.clock.textColor:            #b2b2b2

toolbar.button:                     flat gradient diagonal
toolbar.button.color:               #272e3b
toolbar.button.colorTo:             #dddee0
toolbar.button.picColor:            #faf9fe

toolbar.button.pressed:             sunken gradient diagonal
toolbar.button.pressed.color:       #ffffff
toolbar.button.pressed.colorTo:     #a6a6a6
toolbar.button.pressed.picColor:    #000000

! -- menu --
menu.title:                         raised gradient vertical
menu.title.color:                   #747474
menu.title.colorTo:                 #000000
menu.title.textColor:               #f4f4f4
menu.title.justify:                 center
menu.title.font:                    overhead brk
menu.title.fontHeight:              16

menu.frame:                         raised gradient vertical
menu.frame.color:                   #ffffff
menu.frame.colorTo:                 #a6a6a6
menu.frame.textColor:               #000000
menu.frame.justify:                 right
menu.frame.font:                    overhead brk
menu.frame.fontHeight:              16

menu.hilite:                        flat gradient vertical
menu.hilite.color:                  #8a8a8a
menu.hilite.colorTo:                #ffffff
menu.hilite.textColor:              #000000

menu.bullet:                        triangle
menu.bullet.position:               right

! -- window --
window.title.focus:                 raised gradient pipecross
window.title.focus.color:           #747474
window.title.focus.colorTo:         #000000

window.label.focus:                 raised gradient vertical
window.label.focus.color:           #ffffff
window.label.focus.colorTo:         #a6a6a6
window.label.focus.textColor:       #000000

window.handle.focus:                flat gradient vertical
window.handle.focus.color:          #747474
window.handle.focus.colorTo:        #000000

window.grip.focus:                  raised gradient vertical
window.grip.focus.color:            #ffffff
window.grip.focus.colorTo:          #a6a6a6

window.button.focus:                flat gradient diagonal
window.button.focus.color:          #272e3b
window.button.focus.colorTo:        #dddee0
window.button.focus.picColor:       #faf9fe

window.button.pressed:              sunken gradient vertical
window.button.pressed.color:        #747474
window.button.pressed.colorTo:      #000000
window.button.pressed.picColor:     #ffffff

window.title.unfocus:               flat gradient rectangle
window.title.unfocus.color:         #272e3b
window.title.unfocus.colorTo:       #dddee0

window.label.unfocus:               flat gradient rectangle
window.label.unfocus.color:         #272e3b
window.label.unfocus.colorTo:       #dddee0
window.label.unfocus.textColor:     #eef5ff

window.handle.unfocus:              flat gradient rectangle
window.handle.unfocus.color:        #272e3b
window.handle.unfocus.colorTo:      #dddee0
window.handle.height:               2

window.grip.unfocus:                raised gradient horizontal interlaced
window.grip.unfocus.color:          #272e3b
window.grip.unfocus.colorTo:        #dddee0

window.button.unfocus:              flat gradient diagonal
window.button.unfocus.color:        #000000
window.button.unfocus.colorTo:      #747474
window.button.unfocus.picColor:     #b2b2b2

window.frame.focusColor:            #5b1f05
window.frame.unfocusColor:          #058a76

window.font:                        overhead brk
window.fontHeight:                  16
window.justify:                     center

! -- misc. --
borderColor:                        #606060
borderWidth:                        1
bevelWidth:                         1
frameWidth:                         1
handleWidth:                        8


Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:04 pm
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thanks for the advice. i will edit the file when i get time. i also realized that the volume adjustment buttons on my hp pavilion ze2308wm do not work when im using the bblean shell. is there a plugin that could correct this problem and would not interfere with the explorer shell because i switch between the two alot.


Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:43 am
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look here, may help you viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3290
a search through the forums turns up lots of answers :wink:.


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Hi all

DisplayFusion has a few shortcut nifty keys that can be used, for eg. Ctrl+Win+X will move the current window from the current monitor onto the next monitor at same size. Other are like center window, center window at 100%, 75%.

Can such feats be achieved in BBKeys + BBLean?

Please advise.

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tmk not currently. It could probably be done with a mix of BBKeys & Tcl-bb, but it's not part of the core of any branch.

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Hi tresni

Thanks for your response, anyway such can be made available in a future release of bbKeys?

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You could give gridmove a try.
I use it and it really suits me.
You cannot move windows unresized from one monitor to another but you can move windows around using hotkeys (win + 1-0) or by mouse.
Have a look.
Note that you'll probably need to make your own grid. But that shouldn't be too much trouble.


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Thanks Lord Driminicus, I will give your suggestion a try.

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bhavbhuti wrote:
Ctrl+Win+X will move the current window from the current monitor onto the next monitor at same size.


did you mean Win+Up / Win+Down ?

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bhavbhuti wrote:
Ctrl+Win+X will move the current window from the current monitor onto the next monitor at same size.


did you mean Win+Up / Win+Down ?


No, no I am aware of that, to maximize and restore in the same screen. But this one actually moves the window out from monitor 1 to monitor 2 and vice versa.

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I'm pretty green at this, but I'm trying to create a rocker hotkey (right click then left click) to invoke and scroll through the AltTab menu, but I can't figure out the right syntax to use, or if it's possible with bbkeys. Can anyone help?


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