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Topic review - uberbox (full version)
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unkamunka
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:21 pm
Re: uberbox (full version)
AFAICS the issue is that the Window is an EditBox - *not* a "regular" Window.
You can try rewriting the whole plugin: adding a "regular" Window into which the EditBox would load. (This is what bbBroam & bbRun úse.) I'm not sure whether the increased overhead is worth it for uberbox.
The workaround that I tend to use is to click on the Desktop & then bro@m the loading of the plugin.
AFAICS the issue is that the Window is an EditBox - *not* a "regular" Window.
You can try rewriting the whole plugin: adding a "regular" Window into which the EditBox would load. (This is what bbBroam & bbRun úse.) I'm not sure whether the increased overhead is worth it for uberbox.
The workaround that I tend to use is to click on the Desktop & then bro@m the loading of the plugin.
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balrog
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:32 am
Re: uberbox (full version)
Just curious, does anyone else have to hit their 'focus' hotkey twice (or hold it for 1 second) in order to type into the box? Is there a way to focus the plugin without bro@ms? I think maybe the delay between broadcast messages is too long, with the plugin being brought to the foreground but not focused until it receives a 2nd message.
Just curious, does anyone else have to hit their 'focus' hotkey twice (or hold it for 1 second) in order to type into the box? Is there a way to focus the plugin without bro@ms? I think maybe the delay between broadcast messages is too long, with the plugin being brought to the foreground but not focused until it receives a 2nd message.
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balrog
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:30 am
Re: uberbox (full version)
Thanks, I had trouble finding the link on sourceforge (and wasn't even sure it existed).
Thanks, I had trouble finding the link on sourceforge (and wasn't even sure it existed).
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unkamunka
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:24 am
Re: uberbox (full version)
[url]http://bb4win.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bb4win/uberbox/[/url]
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balrog
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:29 am
Re: uberbox (full version)
Is the source available for the latest version?
Is the source available for the latest version?
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balrog
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:59 am
Uberbox won't 'focus' unless I press the hotkey twice.
I've tried both uberbox 1.4.1 and uberbox lite. I'm trying to replace the regular windows Run dialog with uberbox. I've setup a hotkey in BBKeys which executes @broambox.focus, but when I hit my hotkey (I've tried different KeyToGrab's and WithModifiers) uberbox is brought to the top of my other windows, but I need to press it a second time for it to truly 'focus' so I can type into it. Otherwise it just displays uberbox, with whatever other window I had beneath retaining focus.
Any idea how to fix this bug? If I hold the hotkey down for 1 whole second, it 'refocuses' and allows me to type into it, but that's annoying. I just need it to popup and get focus on a quick press.
edit: While we're on the subject of bugs. When the aliases window opens, it appears at the top left of the screen, with only its bottom right corner visible. I then need to move it using winxmove, otherwise it's permanently stuck there.
I've tried both uberbox 1.4.1 and uberbox lite. I'm trying to replace the regular windows Run dialog with uberbox. I've setup a hotkey in BBKeys which executes @broambox.focus, but when I hit my hotkey (I've tried different KeyToGrab's and WithModifiers) uberbox is brought to the top of my other windows, but I need to press it a second time for it to truly 'focus' so I can type into it. Otherwise it just displays uberbox, with whatever other window I had beneath retaining focus.
Any idea how to fix this bug? If I hold the hotkey down for 1 whole second, it 'refocuses' and allows me to type into it, but that's annoying. I just need it to popup and get focus on a quick press.
edit: While we're on the subject of bugs. When the aliases window opens, it appears at the top left of the screen, with only its bottom right corner visible. I then need to move it using winxmove, otherwise it's permanently stuck there.
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unkamunka
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:10 am
Re: uberbox (full version) - bugfixes 1.4.1
semiono wrote: I understand there is an error -.....broambox.rc is $Blackbox$\plugins\uberbox\uberbox.rc ? Correct.
[quote="semiono"]I understand there is an error -.....broambox.rc is $Blackbox$\plugins\uberbox\uberbox.rc ?[/quote]Correct.
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semiono
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:09 pm
Re: uberbox (full version) - bugfixes 1.4.1
I understand there is an error - Code: uberbox.rc settings broambox.rc is created on first load - with default settings:
broambox.X: 895 X position of the uberbox broambox.Y: 30 Y position of the uberbox broambox.width: 300 Length of the uberbox broambox.rc is $Blackbox$\plugins\uberbox\uberbox.rc ?
I understand there is an error - [code]uberbox.rc settings broambox.rc is created on first load - with default settings:
broambox.X: 895 X position of the uberbox broambox.Y: 30 Y position of the uberbox broambox.width: 300 Length of the uberbox[/code] broambox.rc is $Blackbox$\plugins\uberbox\uberbox.rc ?
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semiono
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:54 pm
Re: uberbox (full version) - bugfixes 1.4.1
Quote: broambox.rc is created on first load - with default settings: not found! is it need to create manuality? where is to place - $Blackbox$\ or plugins\uberbox ? is oldest xoblite3 full works with it? i very happy to get more broams in the xob3 Yes I have - msvcr70.dll, msvcr71.dll, msvcr80.dll... 
[quote]broambox.rc is created on first load - with default settings:[/quote] not found! is it need to create manuality? where is to place - $Blackbox$\ or plugins\uberbox ? is oldest xoblite3 full works with it? i very happy to get more broams in the xob3 :)
Yes I have - msvcr70.dll, msvcr71.dll, msvcr80.dll... :D
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unkamunka
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:00 am
Re: Uberbox (full version) - bugfixes 1.4.1
The Slit Entry & History Size overflow bugs have now been fixed; also a minor enhancement to the drag & drop dialogue. 
The Slit Entry & History Size overflow bugs have now been fixed; also a minor enhancement to the drag & drop dialogue. :D[attachment=0]uberbox_1.41.zip[/attachment]
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unkamunka
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:21 pm
Re: Uberbox - updated to 1.4
pkone wrote: any suggestion??? TBH the Slit testing was done on xoblite's Slit. It now seems that Broambox loads into any non-xoblite Slit - but not uberbox (including the earlier version). I will try to look at this further when I get a chance.
[quote="pkone"]any suggestion???[/quote]TBH the Slit testing was done on xoblite's Slit.
It now seems that Broambox loads into any non-xoblite Slit - but not uberbox (including the earlier version). :(
I will try to look at this further when I get a chance.
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pkone
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:48 am
Re: Uberbox - updated to 1.4
i could't configurable the plugin via it's own configuration menu when i used bblean1.17 to load it. and what i wanted was used bbinterface to creat a frame to load uberbox.dll, but i couldn't set it inslit,even i edit the BROAMBOX.RC to chang the var.
any suggestion???
i could't configurable the plugin via it's own configuration menu when i used bblean1.17 to load it. and what i wanted was used bbinterface to creat a frame to load uberbox.dll, but i couldn't set it inslit,even i edit the BROAMBOX.RC to chang the var.
any suggestion???
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Jahandar
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:09 pm
Re: Uberbox - updated to 1.4
unkamunka wrote: Guest wrote: There is a bug that persists even in this latest version. From what I can tell, once the history.rc file contains too many unique entries, it will cause bblean to crash and the plugin will fail to load. The magic number seems to be around 670 unique lines, but YMMV. I've generated a dummy history file containing 670 unique lines that will cause the crash. It can be downloaded here. That is why - in the current version - history.rc does not generate duplicate items. Thanks for doing the research into the "tipping point".  Not many users will generate 670 unique items. ATM there is a menu entry to edit history.rc (& thus scale back the size of the file). If there is sufficient demand, I will look at editing the code to limit the number of history.rc items. Your welcome (sorry, I had not realized I wasn't logged in when I posted). I would suggest at least mentioning it as a known issue in the readme or release post. Or, if possible, have it crash gracefully with an error message or something. Even if 670 unique items is rare (I've gotten there about 3 times in 8 months before 1.4, and half-way there now), when it eventually Does happen, there is no indication of what went wrong or how. It just looks like bblean crashed. Anyone unfamiliar with this bug who encounters it will have to realize that a plugin is at fault, then take the time to disable all of the possible culprits in plugins.rc, then selectively enable them and try to run the shell to finally learn that Uberbox was at fault, then hopefully make the correct guess as to why and how to fix it. For many users, especially the non-coders, that's a lot to ask. Most likely, they'll just stop using it. At least give the poor guys a head's up.  Sorry to harp on a negative, I really do like the plugin and your contributions to it.
[quote="unkamunka"][quote="Guest"]There is a bug that persists even in this latest version.
From what I can tell, once the history.rc file contains too many unique entries, it will cause bblean to crash and the plugin will fail to load. The magic number seems to be around 670 unique lines, but YMMV.
I've generated a dummy history file containing 670 unique lines that will cause the crash. It can be downloaded [url=http://www.antarat.com/temp/uberbox/history.rc]here[/url].[/quote]That is why - in the current version - history.rc does not generate duplicate items. Thanks for doing the research into the "tipping point". :D
Not many users will generate 670 unique items. ATM there is a menu entry to edit history.rc (& thus scale back the size of the file). If there is sufficient demand, I will look at editing the code to limit the number of history.rc items.[/quote]
Your welcome (sorry, I had not realized I wasn't logged in when I posted). I would suggest at least mentioning it as a known issue in the readme or release post. Or, if possible, have it crash gracefully with an error message or something.
Even if 670 unique items is rare (I've gotten there about 3 times in 8 months before 1.4, and half-way there now), when it eventually Does happen, there is no indication of what went wrong or how. It just looks like bblean crashed.
Anyone unfamiliar with this bug who encounters it will have to realize that a plugin is at fault, then take the time to disable all of the possible culprits in plugins.rc, then selectively enable them and try to run the shell to finally learn that Uberbox was at fault, then hopefully make the correct guess as to why and how to fix it.
For many users, especially the non-coders, that's a lot to ask. Most likely, they'll just stop using it. At least give the poor guys a head's up. :)
Sorry to harp on a negative, I really do like the plugin and your contributions to it.
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unkamunka
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:09 am
Re: Uberbox - updated to 1.4
Guest wrote: There is a bug that persists even in this latest version. From what I can tell, once the history.rc file contains too many unique entries, it will cause bblean to crash and the plugin will fail to load. The magic number seems to be around 670 unique lines, but YMMV. I've generated a dummy history file containing 670 unique lines that will cause the crash. It can be downloaded here. That is why - in the current version - history.rc does not generate duplicate items. Thanks for doing the research into the "tipping point".  Not many users will generate 670 unique items. ATM there is a menu entry to edit history.rc (& thus scale back the size of the file). If there is sufficient demand, I will look at editing the code to limit the number of history.rc items.
[quote="Guest"]There is a bug that persists even in this latest version.
From what I can tell, once the history.rc file contains too many unique entries, it will cause bblean to crash and the plugin will fail to load. The magic number seems to be around 670 unique lines, but YMMV.
I've generated a dummy history file containing 670 unique lines that will cause the crash. It can be downloaded [url=http://www.antarat.com/temp/uberbox/history.rc]here[/url].[/quote]That is why - in the current version - history.rc does not generate duplicate items. Thanks for doing the research into the "tipping point". :D
Not many users will generate 670 unique items. ATM there is a menu entry to edit history.rc (& thus scale back the size of the file). If there is sufficient demand, I will look at editing the code to limit the number of history.rc items.
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Guest
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:16 pm
Re: Uberbox - updated to 1.4
There is a bug that persists even in this latest version. From what I can tell, once the history.rc file contains too many unique entries, it will cause bblean to crash and the plugin will fail to load. The magic number seems to be around 670 unique lines, but YMMV. I've generated a dummy history file containing 670 unique lines that will cause the crash. It can be downloaded here.
There is a bug that persists even in this latest version.
From what I can tell, once the history.rc file contains too many unique entries, it will cause bblean to crash and the plugin will fail to load. The magic number seems to be around 670 unique lines, but YMMV.
I've generated a dummy history file containing 670 unique lines that will cause the crash. It can be downloaded [url=http://www.antarat.com/temp/uberbox/history.rc]here[/url].
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